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Highlights of the Panel on N.T. Wright at SBTS

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  • Bible
  • N.T. Wright
  • New Perspective on Paul
  • Theology
3Sep2009

Over dinner this evening I listened to the audio from today's Panel on N.T. Wright and the Doctrine of Justification at Southern Seminary (SBTS). I highly recommend listening to (or watching) the entire panel, especially if:

  1. You enjoy theology and/or biblical scholarship and don't know who N.T. Wright is or why he matters in the discussion of justification.
  2. Like me, you actually do know who N.T. Wright is, enjoy reading various things written by him, and appreciate many points of agreement with what he teaches.

Overview of the Panel

The panel was moderated by Dr. Albert Mohler, the President of SBTS, and included various professors of theology from the seminary (Drs. Burk, Schreiner, Seifrid, and Vickers - a personal favorite). I'm not going to take time to recap the whole discussion, because the panel itself recapped a discussion (or controversy?) in modern Evangelical theology that spans the last few decades. A lot of ground has been covered in what has been dubbed the "New Perspective on Paul" (NPP).

The tone of the panel was both charitable toward N.T. Wright and his positive contributions to biblical scholarship and pastoral as it evaluated how what we believe about justification will affect our ministry. The professors do a good job of bringing listeners up to speed on the various issues at stake, and if you find yourself lost in the discussion, I encourage you to listen to the first half twice.

Issues at Stake

A few "traditional" issues that are questioned by the NPP include:

  • The definition of the gospel, or "Good News." Is it an announcement of the salvation of sinners or is it enough to proclaim the resurrection of Jesus?
  • The imputation of righteousness. Do we stand before God in righteousness based on what Christ has done?
  • The scope of justification. Is it primarily a soteriological ("What must I do to be saved?", the traditional scope) or ecclesiastical (who is in my covenant community, the NPP) doctrine.
  • The context of the New Testament. Was the religion commonly practiced as Judaism in the time of Jesus legalistic, and is Paul really responding to such legalism in his letters?
  • The historical interpretation of Scripture on the doctrine of justification, especially since the Reformation. Basically, the NPP argues that the Reformers and their predecessors did not understand the context of the New Testament and so "got it wrong" on justification. (The "New" of the NPP is in relation to "Old" of the biblical commentary and scholarship on these issues since at least the time of Calvin, Luther, et al.)

There's obviously more to the NPP and even more discussed in the panel, but the panel did at least spend a few minutes on each of the issues above, making sure they accurately portrayed Wright's position and providing initial responses to these deviations from historical interpretation. For further study, I highly recommend The Future of Justification by John Piper (who, Dr. Mohler notes, wrote this as a scholarly critique from within the context of a full time pastoral ministry). I was actually greatly encouraged as I read what I've read of it. If you're not sure you want to buy it, you can download a free copy of the entire book via the link above... some business model! Smiling

Panel Highlights

As I've mentioned before, I really recommend listening to the whole thing. However, I will take the time to transcribe a few interchanges and statements by the gentlemen on the panel. These won't necessarily make sense in isolation, but I'm posting them because I found them to be particularly poignant responses to the NPP.

Reading Into Scripture

First off, Dr. Schreiner and Dr. Seifrid held a small interchange around 40 minutes in which they describe something of a hermeneutical misstep Wright makes when he discusses the doctrine of the imputation of righteousness in his recent book:

Schreiner: When he speaks of imputation he says that the traditional understanding is wrong, because justification is a courtroom, forensic doctrine. I agree with him there, but then he says in a courtroom the judge can't give his righteousness to the one who is being charged. I think that's amazingly reductionistic, as if the illustration of the courtroom is exhausted by our human experience. Instead you have to look at the biblical text to see the richness of what it is saying about what is happening. And yet he bases it on what happens in our courtrooms. I think that's quite astonishing.

Seifrid: I think that's right. Although the Scriptures of course understand God's justifying work in Christ and the final judgment as a forensic scene, what takes place there is beyond all human expectation because of God's marvelous love in Jesus Christ. Part of the problem also with Wright on this point is that He imports a modern courtroom into the Scriptures.

What about Adam?

Dr. Vickers sees something missing in Wright's understanding of the overarching story of the Bible:

There's something missing. I like when I hear Wright talk about "from Abraham to Israel to Messiah to the world." I like the idea of the big picture of Scripture. But what's missing in my view is, "Where's Adam?" And this gets down to what the traditional view is all about - Paul boiling the human race down to two people. Anyone you ever meet will either be in Adam or in Christ, and the actions of one of those two people affect and determine the status that people have before God. If you're going to deal with the traditional view, that's central.

What is the Good News?

Speaking of the pastoral implications of the NPP, Mohler and Burk said the following...

Mohler: N.T. Wright makes a fascinating statement. Bishop Wright says that the gospel is not primarily a message about how one is saved. That's an incredible statement, isn't it?

Burk: For him it's simply a declaration that Jesus Christ is the resurrected Lord. That's the gospel. That's the announcement. As John Piper so carefully points out, that is not good news unless you give an account of how the resurrected savior is for you and not against you. We're all sinners. We have committed sins against this resurrected Lord who's going to judge the world. It's not good news to know He's back! Ok? That's not good at all.

Mohler: It's not good unless there is a firm confidence in the fact that we will be found righteous in Him.

Burk: Right, Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures. Even in the Apostolic declarations of the gospel narrative, of the death and resurrection of Jesus, there is an account of how that counts for us - that somehow he is a substitute for us and that he is justifying us. To leave that out of the gospel proclamation has horrible pastoral applications in addition to being unbiblical."

Overreacting?

Dr. Schreiner in his closing remarks comments:

I think there's a danger for those listening to a discussion like this where we focus on Wright's weaknesses, I think there's a danger of a young student reading Wright and seeing the good things and thinking everybody up here on the panel overreacted. And so I think we'd all want to reaffirm. There are good things in Wright from which we can learn, but don't miss where he's gone astray. And a fundamental area, the gospel. Young students tend to want to believe something new, but if you stray in terms of the gospel, you've forgotten the gospel. Luther was right. We need to re-learn the gospel every day. If we think we know the gospel, if we think we've mastered the gospel, we don't know it. We have to be mastered by it.

Not Resting on Assumptions

Dr. Vickers in his closing remarks comments:

Where do we go from here? It goes to show that these ideas never go away. The centrality of something like justification, never goes away. ... It should challenge us not just to rest on assumptions, but to go back to the text, go back to the Scriptures, not just follow this person or that person but go back to the Scriptures and read them again. So that we can speak to some of the issues that we're talking about related to justification today were not things they were talking about in justification debates fifty years ago.

Dr. Mohler adds to this in his closing remarks:

We're not just merely defenders of a tradition. We are those who go back to the Scriptures and say, "How do we read, hear, obey, preach, and teach the Word of God in such a way that God is glorified, Christ is amplified, and the Church is edified." The biggest problem I have with Bishop N.T. Wright's perspective on Paul and justification is that I cannot imagine in the end how you would preach what I would recognize to be the gospel if you accept his assumptions.

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God's concern for His good name

In:
  • Bible
  • Christianity
2Sep2009

My last post was long. It was a compilation of an hour's worth of teaching, illustration, and discussion. This one will be shorter. It is essentially a reflection on a statement in my last post. Toward the end, in response to the priority of God's rescuing work in 2 Peter 2:9, I wrote,

Just as much as God cares about preserving His good name, God cares about rescuing you from the deadly influence of false teachers.

Today I resolved this statement in my head by realizing that by rescuing us not just from the deadly influence of false teaching, but in ultimately rescuing us from Satan, sin, and death, God is in fact preserving His good name.

In other words, simply silencing the ignorant talk of foolish men (His words, not mine) is not how God preserves His reputation. He doesn't merely combat misinformation and silence the false witness of those whose words and deeds cause the way of truth to be blasphemed. Rather, because God presents Himself as a deliverer of people oppressed by sin and sinful men, His deliverance of us from evil is what upholds the integrity of His name. By continuing to rescue His people, God is proving Himself faithful. His actions speak louder than false words against Him.

There's a lesson here for us as well, and I alluded to it in my earlier reference to 1 Peter 2:15,

For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people.

When false teachers downplay the reality or heinousness of sin or disparage the Lord's saving work, God responds by saving and proving them wrong. When people revile you, persecute you, and utter evil against you falsely on account of Jesus (cf. Mt. 5:11), you can respond by doing good in return while entrusting yourself to God and His deliverance (cf. 1 Pt. 2:23). Let your actions speak louder than false words against you.

These thoughts are unrefined but the truths are glorious. Feel free to help me refine my understanding and presentation of these ideas in a comment. Eye

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False Teachers Will Come

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  • Bible
  • Ministry
2Sep2009

I taught 2 Peter 2:1-10a tonight at the Transformation House. I was up most of last night working and then gone all of today to Bowling Green on business, so I expected to deliver a short meditation on a happy nuance of the character of God I detected in verse 9. I even joked on the phone with my co-teacher that I didn't expect a whizz-bang lesson given my circumstances unless the Lord intervened. Hanging up, I decided to combat unbelief and turned that simple comment into a prayer. Not surprisingly, we ended up having an hour long Bible study that elicited positive interaction from the men present and greatly encouraged me. Amen!

And that's not even the best part of the story!

The passage in 2 Peter begins a discussion of false teachers, their ill effects, and their poor prospects for the future. Instead of diving right into the passage itself, we first examined Jeremiah 6:9-15 where the Lord forewarns Israel of his coming wrath on account of the nation's abject rebellion and the disregard of the prophets and priests for the ministry of the Word. Not only were the false prophets superficially binding up a broken people, but they weren't even ashamed of their hypocrisy. They declared "Peace, peace," when there was no peace... like a string quartet trying to calm a drowning crowd in the icy North Atlantic.

Beginning in Jeremiah served to strengthen our understanding of the heinousness of false teachers. Not only do they bring destruction on themselves, but in leading a whole people astray they bring down the wrath of God on many. (Isn't it enough for someone to walk alone into destruction? How much more severe it must be to lead a line...) Israel was in a very bad spot, and the Lord did exactly as He promised.

Segue into 2 Peter. I reminded the guys of the previous weeks' teaching... Peter, on the strength of the inspiration of the true prophets, and having witnessed the glory of God in Christ, came to understand that Jesus was the fulfillment of the prophets. He didn't make up a fairy tale about the magical man who walked on water and did good to all. He accepted the authority of the Word and deduced from his life experience that the only rational conclusion was that Jesus is the Son of God, the savior of sinners. He spent his life reminding those who came to faith that this truth was worth living out and defending till death.

However, believing the gospel and living according to the Bible will not come easy. By and large, the world is set against such behavior. Some would be happy to see us compromise our convictions or abandon our faith, and it tends to be because they want something we have or because our holiness highlights their sensuality. This was easily demonstrable in the lesson by virtue of the fact that most of the men present shared the following experience of a friend of mine who lived with me.

Some years ago, my roommate, Rob Smythe, and I brought in a third man to live with us who had been evicted from his apartment. We were still fairly new at such ministry and didn't recognize the fact that his eviction was due to a drug addiction. We began the process of working with him to plan to save his paycheck and not squander it on new clothes and drugs, but week after week he spent his paycheck before we could put any of our plans into action. One day, I diagnosed his "flirtation" with drugs as an addiction, and he told me in all seriousness that no one had ever told him that before. Until that day, smoking crack was just something he did socially but not something that he depended on. His friends were happy to delude him and squander his wealth on their crack, and all the while he was at least nominally active in another church in the city. You know the saying... "With friends like these..."

Well, that story (of which I've been given permission to share) really resonated with the guys there. Not only was this a clear example of a man's friends eager to bring him down, it was the common experience of many men with addictions who are taken advantage of by their friends and who have done the same in turn. However, it's not just the world and our supposed friends, but even those within the church who would preach, "Peace, peace," or, "Social activity, not addiction," that keep us from believing, loving, and obeying the Bible. Peter writes that he wants to always stir the people up by way of reminder so that even after he's dead and gone, the faithful will stand firm despite the source of the attack on their biblical fidelity.

So... these false teachers. They lead others into sensuality. They take advantage of others' wealth. On account of them and their obvious hypocrisy (to the world, that is), the way of truth is actually blasphemed. In other words, these people are doing evil, leading others to do evil, and leading still others to speak evil of the Lord and His gospel. There's no doubt what they have coming for them, or as Peter writes, their destruction is not asleep.

He then goes through this list of events where the wicked are unreservedly punished. Fallen angels are bound in darkness. The ancient world is wiped out by a flood. Sodom and Gomorrah are burned to smithereens. A few words come to mind. Unequivocal. Absolute. Destruction. And don't you expect Peter to write that the Lord has the same in store for the false teachers his friends will encounter? I know I did. And this is the good part I mentioned way up above.

Peter actually takes a different approach. Yes, he does get to the point that the unrighteous will be kept under punishment until the day of judgment, but he comes in at an unexpected angle. What's funny is that I should be geared to expect it. Here's what I mean...

The horror of the Flood wasn't just about wrath. It was also about Noah, a preacher of righteousness, being saved in a boat thanks to the instruction of God. The flames of Sodom and Gomorrah weren't just about wrath. They were also about righteous Lot being saved from the city where not even ten righteous men could be found. In fact, Peter even points out that the wickedness of those around Lot greatly distressed him. No longer. The wicked men were burned, along with the cities whose names they have forever tarnished.

And so when we get to the end of this passage. The warning about false teachers and the promise that their destruction is not asleep is not just about God preserving His good name. Certainly, the Lord will vindicate His name. But notice in verse 9 what appears first... "the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials." That's right, Christian. God cares about you. Just as much as God cares about preserving His good name, God cares about rescuing you from the deadly influence of false teachers. He will judge, but His judgment is not just about Him having His way. His judgment is for your good, to spare you from the trial or temptation of hearing and being enticed by false teaching.

God cares about you, and in your fight to remain faithful, the Lord knows how to rescue you from trials. That thought, that simple meditation arrived at "roundaboutly" was a great encouragement me to me this evening, and I hope it is to you, too. Thanks for sticking with me. Smiling

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Let the Bible Speak

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  • Bible
27Aug2009

In case you don't know my religious background, I am a Christian who believes the Bible is absolutely (said qualitatively, not for emphasis) true in its testimony about itself, its general message of salvation, and its particular applications. I consider it an authoritative source of information and instruction in all the places that it claims authority. Even more, I believe the Bible contains the revelation of God to man. To top it all off, I actually enjoy reading it and thinking about it!

My meditations on the Bible have lately centered around the topic of this post... letting the Bible speak for itself. What I mean is this... I study the Bible from within a theological tradition. I have a certain understanding of the unifying story of the Bible. I can recognize themes and appreciate the unity of diverse stories and narratives. I can even write about specific passages and model what I'm thinking as I look for contextual and historical clues for interpretation and application. You can find a few examples of this in the Bible category on this site.

And there's the segue... Categories. I have categories for passages in Scripture much like I have categories on this site. And these are the real topic of this post. Because of my theological tradition and formulation, I have categories for understanding various passages and verses in the Bible. I might say John 1:1ff. is a passage about the pre-existence and divinity of Jesus and John 14:6 is a verse about the exclusivity of the gospel. But my categories have come from my reading of other Scriptures and have been reinforced and/or emphasized by my broader theological background.

By way of illustration... I didn't have categories for posts on this site when I first opened it. However, now that I've been adding categories as I write, I tend to reuse existing categories before making new ones. This post might more appropriately be tagged Hermeneutics, but I stick with Bible because it's there. So with Bible study... we don't start reading our Bibles with a whole list of categories, but as we study it in the context of a church and alongside other books and commentaries, our thoughts start to follow familiar paths when we approach different passages. We develop categories for making sense of the text.

I don't think this is inherently wrong. We need to categorize information in large data sets to make sense of the whole. However, once categorized, a piece of information should still be able to speak for itself. We don't have all the right categories, and we might prioritize them differently than the Bible itself does. Furthermore, our categories can silence passages that don't fall into our majority categories. So, if we know 15 passages discussing assurance and perseverance in the faith, we might grant that category or theme a majority influence as we read the Scriptures. This in turn might lead us to marginalize or massage our interpretation of passages that warn against falling away.

As I think about how I'm interpreting the Scriptures, I want to be sure that my subconscious categorization doesn't keep the text from speaking for itself. I hope to do this by developing an awareness of how I am categorizing passages and themes, intentionally examining the Scriptures as though I might be missing something, and letting the Bible speak in areas where I might be silencing it by my "categorical majorities." I encourage you to do the same.

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Late Nights and Site Updates

In:
  • Bible
  • SBTS
  • Websites
24May2009

This week has been crazy. It's included several late nights hacking on four Ubercart modules that I developed as a Commerce Guy through a community funded project. More on those later. The week also involved my first all-nighter in over five years. I thought I left those behind with my undergrad studies, but apparently I'm still just as much of a procrastinator! Sticking out tongue (Getting the flu the last two weeks of class sure didn't help.)

I had to stay up all night Thursday and work till about 5 PM on Friday to finish a research paper (to be posted) and final exam for my class on the Doctrine of the Person of Christ. I'm pleased with the results, but I really wish I'd been disciplined to finish the paper sooner so I could have more time to mull it over and revise. I'll let it sit for a while and then touch it up to post it online. Basically, it's a short paper dealing with the Son of Man sayings in the Gospel of Matthew. I've been intrigued by the topic for some time now and have thoroughly enjoyed my recent studies on the topic. The gist of it is Jesus uses the title to establish a new framework for understanding the Messiah against the popular framework of his day. The Son of Man combines the figures of the suffering Servant of the Lord from Isaiah 42-61 with the exalted Son of Man figure of Daniel 7 into a single person.

Anyways, despite staying up all night Thursday, I still stayed up till about 1 AM on Friday evening working on my websites. I've had a VPS (web server) at Slicehost for some time now but had never migrated my personal sites onto it. So, I buckled down Thursday evening while waiting for my step-dad to get here and got to work. I managed to get a couple of sites up and running, the Szrama Clan website and The Wingfeather Wiki. I still need to migrate this site and a friend's site, and then all my eggs should be in one basket again.

I'm really excited about the two sites I did manage to get live. The first is a simple collaboration site for Christina and I where we previously shared about our engagement and marriage. However, it's been given a fresh paint job (notice the theme of my weekend?) in honor of our daughter (in utero). We'll hopefully populate it with pictures of both the ultrasound and Top Porch in short order.

The other site is a Wingfeather Saga fan site. It represents my first real personal attempt to use Drupal for social publishing. I've never done a fan site before, but I love Andrew's writing and am happy to promote it. Hopefully some other fans come on board and pitch in! Are you one? Register your account today. Cool

And so, sleep deprived and with plenty of work still to do this weekend, I now close this blog post at 3 AM. I have much more to do and plenty to write about, but I fear even I must sleep a little every now and then. Until next time...

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New Book Search Module for Drupal 6 Released

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  • Bible
  • Drupal
  • Work
18Mar2009
I just released the Book Search module for Drupal 6. I already told my wife how excited I was about the project, as everything fell into place quickly and effectively. I'm one of those oddballs who views his coding as an art, and I love the sense of accomplishment that I get from turning a blank file into a well-styled, commented, feature complete module all in one sitting. The module adds a book search tab to the search form and allows your users to perform simple keyword searches through specific books on your site. As an administrator, you decide which books should be available for search through the book search form, and the user can specify to search any of these books or a select few. The module also defines a book search block that appears when users are view pages from searchable books. The form redirects to the book search form upon submission. One enhancement over the core advanced content search is the fact that I'm persisting the book search options between searches. The core advanced content search turns your parameters into special keywords that then persist in the actual search keywords textfield. Huh? What gives? This module will simply set the defaults for the book search options based on the path and remove them from the keywords in the search keywords textfield. Perhaps this has already been fixed for D7, but if not, someone should prod me until I submit a patch for that. From conception to release, Book Search took about 3.25 hours, keeping me above my target 100 lines of code per hour. I can't say with absolute certainty, but I'm sure the Mountain Dew I had over lunch before diving into the code had something to do with the speedy development. Wink The module was developed for a friend and client named Bill Mounce who operates Biblical Training, a website that offers free seminary level courses online from some of my favorite Evangelical teachers and preachers. He'll also get use out of the module on Kids' Greek, where he's developing online curriculum to teach biblical Greek (targeted at kids and homeschoolers, but obviously awesome for everyone). Bill chaired the translation of the New Testament in the English Standard Version of the Bible, and he keeps an awesome blog that discusses various issues in translation (both academic and practical) and Christian ministry. I highly recommend it! I love it when my work and personal life interests collide. I hope others get some good use out of the result, as well! Cool
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Stega-Sunday

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  • Bible
  • Ubercart
8Feb2009

It's unseasonably warm here in Louisville, which is very nice since my front yard has been a solid sheet of ice for a week and a half. It made getting down the steps and to the car quite a treacherous exercise! After church, I sat down and thoroughly enjoyed another chapter in The Preexistent Son by Simon Gathercole, a book that looks at evidence in the Bible books Matthew, Mark, and Luke indicating the authors understood Jesus to have an existence prior to his incarnation. I've actually really enjoyed the book, even if I didn't know it was such a hotly debated issue! Sticking out tongue

Anyways, afterward Christina and I headed out to the park for a walk. Today was the first "warm" day in a while, so I finally got a chance to sport the short-sleeved Mega Stega t-shirt from one of the more recent Ubercart stores, Muffin Castle. I nabbed the shirt in a site launch promotion they did over Twitter and couldn't be happier. Christina would like me to point out that it might be troublesome that the only strangers to comment on liking my shirt were teenage girls in the park (and one college-aged neighbor across the street). No worries. I'll be sporting this neon wonder at Drupalcon DC regardless!

Thanks again for the shirt. Eye

(Along with the Mega Stega shots, I'm also including pictures of the reason I was without power for 4.5 days... You have to view the full post to check out the images.)

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